Possible Mawj in Ayah 56:68 to 56:70

Shohan Khan
May 23, 2024

Salamun Alaikum MQ Ahl

I was revisiting previous segments with the new instructions of finding mawj. Here are my observations on the ayat 56:68-56:70

  1. The physical seeing of "maa" was mentioned, that means possibility of abusing the AL

  2. 56:69, Who is speaking to whom? Is it a group of aidi challanging Allah?

  3. 56:70, This obviously goes against the rawasiya, the devine water can not be made bitter by a group upon their wish.

  4. My request to my Ahl; What other questions should we seed in our weltenshung for these ayats? Am i thinking correctly or I am falling trap to mawj again. Please help me

Shahran Radi
May 24, 2024

You may want to revisit YT140. timestamp 7:35 talking about 56:68.

M Bilal
May 28, 2024

what does AL mean here?

M Bilal
May 28, 2024

أَفَرَءَيْتُمُ ٱلْمَآءَ ٱلَّذِى تَشْرَبُونَ ٦٨ - i dont understand on how can mawj be here, (May be Allah is saying ) as we dont know the speaker) that have you not seen the water whcih you drink, so may be here water is being rerferred to as physial water and not the divine understanding or even if its the devine understanding then also the speaker is questioning the non believers.

ءَأَنتُمْ أَنزَلْتُمُوهُ مِنَ ٱلْمُزْنِ أَمْ نَحْنُ ٱلْمُنزِلُونَ ٦٩ - Is it you who bring it down from the clouds, or is it We Who do so? - i dont know if ٱلْمُزْنِ means cloud or not, need to wait for Dr Hany's translation but again if Allah is speaking, its a challenge to the non believers if they can bring it down ( physical water or Diving knowledge), so again not sure about how this can be mawj.

Finally - لَوْ نَشَآءُ جَعَلْنَـٰهُ أُجَاجًۭا فَلَوْلَا تَشْكُرُونَ ٧٠ - If We willed, We could make it salty. Will you not then give thanks?

Not sure again if أُجَاجًۭ means salty but i still cant get that there is Mawj here :-(

Shohan Khan
May 29, 2024

Salamun Alaikum brother

  1. AL means Abrahamic Locution

  2. In AL 'Maa' is well defined as Devine Guidence from Allah. So the speakers erroneous understanding of the word may be exposed by Allah with the spelling of the word to mean see physically

  3. Use of We is a red Flag

  4. Again, can Malaika corrupt devine rain if they wish? That is why I suspected mawj here. Thank you Brother