3issa VS 3issa Ibn Maryam

SA

While revisiting YT85 (timestamp 1:55:00), I was poked by this question;

Aal-e-Imran 3:59
 إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ
The similitude of 3issa before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from turab, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

In this ayat (3:59), it is 3issa that being mentioned and not EIM.
My question is, could it be possible that the خَلَقَهُ in here is pointing to the qareen process (i.e, creation of Eissa as a qareen) and not the creation of EIM as a human being? 

Can someone please help me to clear my confusion. Thank you in advance
 

SS

Marvelous Quran
Feb 18, 2023
SA
This Aya is in the voice of the narrator: Allahh SWT.
Why do you want Allahh to use his wiped name (3issa ibn Maryam) instead of his real name?
Andrea Weller
Feb 18, 2023
SA Dr Hany
Is that mean 3issa & 3issa ibn Maryam are not necessary different when mentioned in the voice of the narrator (Allahh SWT)? Or how can we distinguish between 3issa in his life and 3issa as a qareen?

Can we analyse these two ayats:

Aal-e-Imran 3:55
 إِذْ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَٰعِيسَىٰٓ إِنِّى مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَىَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ وَجَاعِلُ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِۖ ثُمَّ إِلَىَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ

Al-Ma'idah 5:110
إِذْ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَٰعِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ ٱذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِى عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَىٰ وَٰلِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدتُّكَ بِرُوحِ ٱلْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ ٱلنَّاسَ فِى ٱلْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلًاۖ وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَٱلْحِكْمَةَ وَٱلتَّوْرَىٰةَ وَٱلْإِنجِيلَۖ وَإِذْ تَخْلُقُ مِنَ ٱلطِّينِ كَهَيْـَٔةِ ٱلطَّيْرِ بِإِذْنِى فَتَنفُخُ فِيهَا فَتَكُونُ طَيْرًۢا بِإِذْنِىۖ وَتُبْرِئُ ٱلْأَكْمَهَ وَٱلْأَبْرَصَ بِإِذْنِىۖ وَإِذْ تُخْرِجُ ٱلْمَوْتَىٰ بِإِذْنِىۖ وَإِذْ كَفَفْتُ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ عَنكَ إِذْ جِئْتَهُم بِٱلْبَيِّنَٰتِ فَقَالَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ مِنْهُمْ إِنْ هَٰذَآ إِلَّا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ 

Why Allahh is addressing
One time: Ya 3issa (3:55)
And one time: Ya 3issa ibn Maryam (5:110)?
If we apply Principle of Intentionality, there seems to be a difference

 
Issa Abdullahi
Feb 18, 2023
Salamun Aleykum 

It just so happens that I was revisiting the same segment today! What a coincidence!

1. I would say read the context, starting from ayah 55.
2. I would ask myself; what is the issue with Eissa's creation that people (Christians and by extention muslims) misunderstood. It is about the miraculous birth. In fact the qareen knowledge (people coming back as qareen)is unknown in the traditional story.
3. Was adam ever mentioned as qareen? 
4. Qareen a new creation?

I stand corrected!

Hope this helps
Salamun Aleykum 
Marvelous Quran
Feb 21, 2023
Check out Aya 18:37

Let's not keep going in circles!

BTW: 3issa is not just as a Qareen for Muhammad.

Re. Aya 5:110:
Allahh was talking to him after the end of his life, and was referring to him by the name he assigned to him during his first life, as a reminder - a poke !
Meaning: Do you remember what you were supposed to do?
Do you remember how I gave you favors in order for you to carry out your original mission?

I hope this makes sense
Z Sulaiman
Feb 19, 2023
I understand your meaning and I have the same question. I’ve had it for a while.. @Apple Jack