SaMAA

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AlLAh says Rain falls from Samaa
AlLAh calls the ocean /cloud samaa. Big body of water  
 
1 large body of water and ard? or The abstract understanding and the scripture
I stressed I could be mistaken

عطاء اَلحیّ احمد | Attaulhai Ahmed
Jul 24, 2022
Salaamun Alaykum.

Do you have some linguistic references?
I really would appreciate how you came to that conclusion.
Honestly, I like the idea but it lacks a convincing argument.

How is it different from the word „Al-Bahr“? How is it related to As-Samaawaat? Are there Ayat that confirm the meaning?

For example the Tayr fly down with Janah. Do they fly down from Samaa?
Or is there another terminology used for?
If it means great body of water, is it something within the hadid of the meanings of Samaa?

Such questions provide the ways to find convincing arguments.

Salaamun Alaykum.


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Jul 24, 2022
Salaamun 3Alaykum 

There is a methodology of organic Qur'anic way and Nested Interpretation and tafseel and some other principles, like principle of relevance,  and others before making such claim  
Also the way to sow the seed and waiting until dhikra comes.  It is a proses of al-akhira.  

The evidence-based-knowledge is different than an opinion. 

And amazingly,  it is posted under "New Disclosures".   

Just a reminding. 

Salaamun 3Alaykum 
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Aug 15, 2022

Attaulhayy Ahmed
3w sorry for the long wait I was really busy
Salaamun Alaykum.

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"Can you show that when Allah says Birds in the Sky and having wings, He is referring to fish in the water?"

Yes, I can. The new definition of TAYR

The answer is you will find a link somewhere on this post.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=253mzNPjQvo

Mohammad -
Jul 25, 2022
This thread has left me more confused than a chameleon in a bag of skittles.

P.s. wasn't your name Nat Luca, why did you change it to Baggins Banu Israel?
Ayesha Shibeshi
Aug 13, 2022
LOL..so funny...
Ramon Quimson
Jul 25, 2022
You said:
These could  all be in locution, if only 1 isnt, it confirms the definition , and even if they are all in locution the superficial meaning  has to make sense as well , thats how its designed.
and there is more.
Salaamun 3Alaykum 

Why didnt pick this?

2:19
‏أَوْ كَصَيِّبٍۢ مِّنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ فِيهِ ظُلُمَتٌۭ وَرَعْدٌۭ وَبَرْقٌۭ يَجْعَلُونَ أَصَبِعَهُمْ فِىٓ ءَاذَانِهِم مِّنَ ٱلصَّوَعِقِ حَذَرَ ٱلْمَوْتِ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ مُحِيطٌۢ بِٱلْكَفِرِينَ 
TRANSLITERATION
aw kaṣayyibin mina l-samāi fīhi ẓulumātun waraʿdun wabarqun yajʿalūna aṣābiʿahum fī ādhānihim mina l-ṣawāʿiqi ḥadhara l-mawti wal-lahu muḥīṭun bil-kāfirīn
In this darkness of samaa there thunder and lightning flashes. Have to stuff fingers to ears, dont bother drowning.
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2:22
ٱلَّذِى جَعَلَ لَكُمُ ٱلْأَرْضَ فِرَشًۭا وَٱلسَّمَآءَ بِنَآءًۭ وَأَنزَلَ مِنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ مَآءًۭ فَأَخْرَجَ بِهِۦ مِنَ ٱلثَّمَرَتِ رِزْقًۭا لَّكُمْ ۖ فَلَا تَجْعَلُوا۟ لِلَّهِ أَندَادًۭا وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ‎
TRANSLITERATION
alladhī jaʿala lakumu l-arḍa firāshan wal-samāa bināan wa-anzala mina l-samāi māan fa-akhraja bihi mina l-thamarāti riz'qan lakum falā tajʿalū lillahi andādan wa-antum taʿlamūn
Who has made for you the ardh as a bed, and the samaa as a roof, and sent down water from towards the samaa and brought therewith fruits as food for you. Then, do not set up rivals unto Allah while you know

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2 wings that superficial samaa not body of water (ocean). 
-no thunder and lightning in ocean
-why close ears in ocean? Too loud inside?
-why need to send down water to ocean to produce fruit on earth? 

The rest of the surah talks about trolling baudah behavior mocking lexicons. 


Water cycles aaya are mentioned elsewhere. 
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Aug 14, 2022


This is not my narrative. 

Words change meaning over time, e.g., "awful" means "awe-inspiring."

Does that mean you fall from the sky if you fall from a plane?

anzal maa min
Samaa
Rain falls from clouds (not the sky), 
It's obvious alLAh is defining clouds as the samaa
A deeper look into what is a cloud, and where clouds come from, leads to  Oceans
The statement that water falls from the ocean is 100. every way you look at it. 
The Quran describes samaa with life. This is not referring to the lifeless sky or anything further away up. 

They are related — take a look---

maa---water drops---guidance

Samaa--the layered body of water-- abstact understanding
First and foremost we understand that maa means water (small tiny water) before we can understand it means guidance. 

2. Samaa has life--- sky no life
1:Samaa releases water.   sky absorbs water
These 2 points do not apply to the sky (heaven) but rather contradictory
 Wait till you see my next disclosure.

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Aug 20, 2022
Salaamun Alaykum
Update
New discovery
I deleted the verses, Turns out I was 
  • innaccurate (not entirely)

I will update new disclosure

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Sep 6, 2022
Since the start, Dr Hany Has always maintained that samaawaat is not Arabic but is a Quran term.
السَّمَآءِ--- Samaa --- water body

السماوات --- samawaat --- means skies Arabic word in the dictionary ( there is 1 sky (Atmosphere)) apparently if you are very large you become plural

السَّمٰوٰتِ 
  samaawaat --- non-Arabic lexicon. not in the Arabic
dictionary, it means layers of understanding